Post by entropydragon on Dec 3, 2016 2:30:26 GMT
Here is a post DrakePlayz has posted multiple times. I will shut down everything in it. Please read the whole thing. All blue text is my response.
Oh and another thing, Lowen people this is your lore, READ IT! it just shows how you dont even care about what the server is ACTUALLY based on but are self-centered.
Also from what the offical lore said you should have nothing against the Slaryn
"The people of Lowen is quite vicious in their political approach, yet come across as fairly friendly."
Yes, the Lowen people did come across as friendly at first, greeting the man kindly. When politics got involved, we became very vicious to him.
"the world council was created, as a result of the great war. Lowen and Slaryn who had not been involved with the war"
They weren't in a war together, so what? Does this mean a person who lives in that nation can't get into a straggle with someone who is in the other? That's like saying I can't dislike an Australian since USA was not fighting against them in WW2.
Written in the offical introduction lore.
"When it comes to capturing prisoners and getting information, the Lowens can be some of the most merciless people. "
Yep, and we were very merciless getting information from you!
Yes this is written as well but you NEED to have a FAIR IC reason for it.
And we did. The reason was that we were paid generously to assassinate LordDragondust's character, and we were told to do this by any means necessary, including murder. That means if we needed to torture you for information, we would.
This is why you DO NOT HAVE a FAIR IC reason:
Just explained why we did, but ok.
_ImYourDad_ (One of the people in which were involved in this non-sense, and in being 'paid' to hurt Azir) Application says:
"Timothy was dedicated to becoming a soldier "
You're right, someone who wanted to be a soldier as a child can't do that, that's against lore. (sarcasm)
"A 19 year old Timothy, who has kept his bad habits, his training, and his strained relationship with his father now lays in his bed in the battle-school dorms searching for an escape."
Not sure how this relates at all, but let's move forward.
Where does it say he was ever a mercenary? Yes he got on a mercenary ship but does Timothy is a mercenary or has ANY REASON to accept a mercenary request? He wants and is "DEDICATED" to become a soldier.
It doesn't say he was a mercenary, because he isn't a mercenary. He doesn't go around looking for assassination jobs. But, if someone approaches him, and pays him generously, and that someone happens to be someone who he has qualms against, he will take the job. He is a former soldier so he does have the skill set for this. Why does he have qualms? The Averesian Colony has become New Lowen's rival in a way, competing for resources and dominance over the island. He was dedicated to become a soldier when he was 19, his character is 30 now if I'm not mistaken. One more thing: People can add lore to their character without adding it to whitelist application. Before this even happened, Timothy told me he was a mercenary. But even without him saying that, I think it's justified for reasons above.
If he is a mercenary why? Also even IF he was a mercenary why would the people of Lowen want to even request hurting Azir, A Slaryn which is not even against them.
I explained the first question above, (he's not mercenary, it's a one time gig). You must understand, people who live in nations are people, there are good and bad people in this world (and every world). They talked to Azir for information, and when he didn't respond, they had to make sure he didn't go off and tell people about Lowenians threatening him and being violent towards him. He was also knocked out to be further interrogated. (This was gathering information about Caynvur, or however you spell it).
And why would Lowen be against Aversia THEY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM, from the lore, and if you were to develop this hatred please explain what has developed.
The lore is just a base for us to build upon. Maybe in the past there was no conflicts between the two nations, but that's not to say conflict can not form. Saying that would just be ignorant. Let me first remind you, this was a paid assassination. If you would like more reason than payment for why we accepted the mercenary job, consider this; Averesia's colony is a very quickly developing colony. It is gaining resources, power, and influence on the island, and the people of New Lowen may take this as threatening.
If you ask me, those IC reasons to hurting and killing character is BULLSHIT that they are making up. Idk why, but it seems like it from the evidence.
Your evidence is crap. We killed you because we needed information, as you can read above, thanks.
This to me is too personal, but if you knew me, which you don't cause you didn't even give the chance to know me, you'd know that I will take this far, and I will and do argue for my and the people around me. This is your lore, You're breaking your own lore.
For the love of god, we aren't breaking any lore. Read above for why. Please, this was an IC event, don't make it OOC.
I am so tired of people tryna say that we did this because of OOC reasons. This was purely IC. You don't always "win" in roleplay. Just accept defeat when it is handed to you. By not allowing yourselves to be assassinated, YOU yourself are hindering the other players' experience, the rule which you claim we have broken. Let the story develop, stop getting upset over losing your things. That's all this is, you are upset because you lost your stuff. If everyone was peaceful and loved each other, it wouldn't be realistic and it wouldn't make good roleplay.
Stop being bitches.
Also from what the offical lore said you should have nothing against the Slaryn
"The people of Lowen is quite vicious in their political approach, yet come across as fairly friendly."
Yes, the Lowen people did come across as friendly at first, greeting the man kindly. When politics got involved, we became very vicious to him.
"the world council was created, as a result of the great war. Lowen and Slaryn who had not been involved with the war"
They weren't in a war together, so what? Does this mean a person who lives in that nation can't get into a straggle with someone who is in the other? That's like saying I can't dislike an Australian since USA was not fighting against them in WW2.
Written in the offical introduction lore.
"When it comes to capturing prisoners and getting information, the Lowens can be some of the most merciless people. "
Yep, and we were very merciless getting information from you!
Yes this is written as well but you NEED to have a FAIR IC reason for it.
And we did. The reason was that we were paid generously to assassinate LordDragondust's character, and we were told to do this by any means necessary, including murder. That means if we needed to torture you for information, we would.
This is why you DO NOT HAVE a FAIR IC reason:
Just explained why we did, but ok.
_ImYourDad_ (One of the people in which were involved in this non-sense, and in being 'paid' to hurt Azir) Application says:
"Timothy was dedicated to becoming a soldier "
You're right, someone who wanted to be a soldier as a child can't do that, that's against lore. (sarcasm)
"A 19 year old Timothy, who has kept his bad habits, his training, and his strained relationship with his father now lays in his bed in the battle-school dorms searching for an escape."
Not sure how this relates at all, but let's move forward.
Where does it say he was ever a mercenary? Yes he got on a mercenary ship but does Timothy is a mercenary or has ANY REASON to accept a mercenary request? He wants and is "DEDICATED" to become a soldier.
It doesn't say he was a mercenary, because he isn't a mercenary. He doesn't go around looking for assassination jobs. But, if someone approaches him, and pays him generously, and that someone happens to be someone who he has qualms against, he will take the job. He is a former soldier so he does have the skill set for this. Why does he have qualms? The Averesian Colony has become New Lowen's rival in a way, competing for resources and dominance over the island. He was dedicated to become a soldier when he was 19, his character is 30 now if I'm not mistaken. One more thing: People can add lore to their character without adding it to whitelist application. Before this even happened, Timothy told me he was a mercenary. But even without him saying that, I think it's justified for reasons above.
If he is a mercenary why? Also even IF he was a mercenary why would the people of Lowen want to even request hurting Azir, A Slaryn which is not even against them.
I explained the first question above, (he's not mercenary, it's a one time gig). You must understand, people who live in nations are people, there are good and bad people in this world (and every world). They talked to Azir for information, and when he didn't respond, they had to make sure he didn't go off and tell people about Lowenians threatening him and being violent towards him. He was also knocked out to be further interrogated. (This was gathering information about Caynvur, or however you spell it).
And why would Lowen be against Aversia THEY HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THEM, from the lore, and if you were to develop this hatred please explain what has developed.
The lore is just a base for us to build upon. Maybe in the past there was no conflicts between the two nations, but that's not to say conflict can not form. Saying that would just be ignorant. Let me first remind you, this was a paid assassination. If you would like more reason than payment for why we accepted the mercenary job, consider this; Averesia's colony is a very quickly developing colony. It is gaining resources, power, and influence on the island, and the people of New Lowen may take this as threatening.
If you ask me, those IC reasons to hurting and killing character is BULLSHIT that they are making up. Idk why, but it seems like it from the evidence.
Your evidence is crap. We killed you because we needed information, as you can read above, thanks.
This to me is too personal, but if you knew me, which you don't cause you didn't even give the chance to know me, you'd know that I will take this far, and I will and do argue for my and the people around me. This is your lore, You're breaking your own lore.
For the love of god, we aren't breaking any lore. Read above for why. Please, this was an IC event, don't make it OOC.
Stop being bitches.
